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Geek Attack!
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The following text is NOT what I personally believe (At all! Even a bit!) but rather 'playing with thoughts', the same way you might ideally fidget with a piece of string.
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If you like, you can categorise the following train of thought as,
PS!
DO NOT HAVE NIGHTMARES!
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“If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it,
Will it still make a sound?”
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Once upon a time, I used to think,
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This is a very stupid question!
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The sound is made by variations in any atmosphere.
A rock falling on to the ground on a totally lifeless planet in deep space still makes a sound.
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The physical laws of science don’t give a flying crap if anything can consciously hear it or not!
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Stupid Question!
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Case Closed!
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Geek Attack!
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EXTREME WEIRD CRAP!
. Science Vs Mysticism from a Philosophical viewpoint.
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. The following text is NOT what I personally believe (At all! Even a bit!) but rather 'playing with thoughts', the same way you might ideally fidget with a piece of string.
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If you like, you can categorise the following train of thought as,
“Stupid things that pass through your mind when you are drunk.”
. PS!
DO NOT HAVE NIGHTMARES!
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“If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it,
Will it still make a sound?”
.
Once upon a time, I used to think,
.
This is a very stupid question!
.
The sound is made by variations in any atmosphere.
A rock falling on to the ground on a totally lifeless planet in deep space still makes a sound.
.
The physical laws of science don’t give a flying crap if anything can consciously hear it or not!
.
Stupid Question!
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Case Closed!
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THEN...
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One night I decided to drink a load of beers while watching TV
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There is a TV show called QI made by BBC 1,
I was a repeat of it on a channel called DAVE.
One of the guests was Dr Brain Cox,
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One night I decided to drink a load of beers while watching TV
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There is a TV show called QI made by BBC 1,
I was a repeat of it on a channel called DAVE.
One of the guests was Dr Brain Cox,
.
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COMMON SENSE ALERT!
The following is a transcript; so obviously, the rules of grammar are not applied!
Because it is a transcript from a naturally occurring live conversation.
So you lot in the grammar police can just sit down and shut the hell up for a moment!
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<Start>
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Dr Brian Cox :
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According to Einstein’s theory of space-time which is our best theory of space-time,
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There is no such thing as a present moment which spans the universe or indeed even the earth,
Or in fact, two people moving relative to each other,
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Stephan Fry:
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It is absurd to think of an event that might be happening “Now” in the Galaxy and me doing this! <Stephan Fry moves a pen> has been simultaneous,
That has no meaning, cosmically, does it!
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Dr Brian Cox:
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You can swap the order of them around as long as they are not causally connected.
I mean, we do not know how time works on a very fundamental level.
If I throw a glass over there and it smashes on the ground,
Then obviously I caused it to smash by throwing it.
You cannot have the smash before I throw it.
However, if you look.... Let's say Sun and the Earth,
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And the sun is eight light minutes away,
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So the sun explodes now, then we will not know for eight minutes.
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So for eight minutes anything that I do here,
I talk, and I talk and four minutes later I am still talking,
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So you can swap the order of those things around until the point when they causally connect.
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So in that case until the explosion destroys the earth.
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<End>
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<Start>
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Dr Brian Cox :
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According to Einstein’s theory of space-time which is our best theory of space-time,
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There is no such thing as a present moment which spans the universe or indeed even the earth,
Or in fact, two people moving relative to each other,
.
Stephan Fry:
.
It is absurd to think of an event that might be happening “Now” in the Galaxy and me doing this! <Stephan Fry moves a pen> has been simultaneous,
That has no meaning, cosmically, does it!
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Dr Brian Cox:
.
You can swap the order of them around as long as they are not causally connected.
I mean, we do not know how time works on a very fundamental level.
If I throw a glass over there and it smashes on the ground,
Then obviously I caused it to smash by throwing it.
You cannot have the smash before I throw it.
However, if you look.... Let's say Sun and the Earth,
.
And the sun is eight light minutes away,
.
So the sun explodes now, then we will not know for eight minutes.
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So for eight minutes anything that I do here,
I talk, and I talk and four minutes later I am still talking,
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So you can swap the order of those things around until the point when they causally connect.
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So in that case until the explosion destroys the earth.
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<End>
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QI Series 1 Episode 7 “Incomprehensible“
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Original airing Friday the 21st Oct 2011 BBC2,
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QI Series 1 Episode 7 “Incomprehensible“
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Original airing Friday the 21st Oct 2011 BBC2,
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And I sat there full of beer and thought,
“Hang on that cannot be right?!”
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Because we all know how much more arrogant douche bags like me get after they have a few beers in us!
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Assuming by Causal effect (him being a physicist talking about physics) he is limiting the argument to physical causal effects then physics must be wrong!
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Because that would mean that there can never be any causal effect between a long-dead star and anyone here on earth.
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But there is!
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That long-dead star still makes physical things and effects stuff happening to us here!
And it makes real physical changes in all our lives without any physical causality!
And I can prove it! (ish)
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I present just four possible pieces of evidence for you all to consider.
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And I sat there full of beer and thought,
“Hang on that cannot be right?!”
.
Because we all know how much more arrogant douche bags like me get after they have a few beers in us!
.
Assuming by Causal effect (him being a physicist talking about physics) he is limiting the argument to physical causal effects then physics must be wrong!
.
Because that would mean that there can never be any causal effect between a long-dead star and anyone here on earth.
.
But there is!
.
That long-dead star still makes physical things and effects stuff happening to us here!
And it makes real physical changes in all our lives without any physical causality!
And I can prove it! (ish)
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I present just four possible pieces of evidence for you all to consider.
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Exhibit A
The Painting “Starry Night” by Van Gough
Which then lead to the Hit Song “Vincent (Starry, Starry Night)” by Don McLean © Universal Music Publishing Group.
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Exhibit B
The child's song “Twinkle Twinkle little star”
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Exhibit A
The Painting “Starry Night” by Van Gough
Which then lead to the Hit Song “Vincent (Starry, Starry Night)” by Don McLean © Universal Music Publishing Group.
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Exhibit B
The child's song “Twinkle Twinkle little star”
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Exhibit C
Horoscopes
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Exhibit C
Horoscopes
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Exhibit D
Dr Brian Cox himself and his entire scientific career!
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Exhibit D
Dr Brian Cox himself and his entire scientific career!
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Because while there cannot be any direct physical causality from the long-dead star, we are most definitely affected and inspired by our observation of it!
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And those observations and inspirations make us create physical things such as art.
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And that art makes a vast amount of money (whose value is also a commonly held delusion) which is used to hire people, feed them and allow them to pay taxes.
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And those taxes can be spent by governments to produce weapons that kill people.
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And just as any other chaos butterfly effect, goes on and on!
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All from something that can NOT have any physical Causality with us!
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Yes this whole argument seems a little pedantic,
.
Ok, I hold my hand up and admit it!
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It is very pedantic and douchy of me!
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And you could argue that,
‘Photons of visible light from that long-dead star still travel and hit the eyes of us observers to make us feel so inspired!’
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Like the thrown glass (Photon of visible light) that smashes into the floor (our eye).
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The Observation cannot come before the existence of that long-dead star, throws out its light out into the dark.
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Sure the amount of physical mass of those photons Vs the potential weight of the crap storm of physical effects that chain react here seems a little disproportionate!
.
But hey “Such is life”
.
But then it got me thinking about the nature of our ability to observe and the potential mystical non-science connections.
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Physics:
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If you have a single photon
Because while there cannot be any direct physical causality from the long-dead star, we are most definitely affected and inspired by our observation of it!
.
And those observations and inspirations make us create physical things such as art.
.
And that art makes a vast amount of money (whose value is also a commonly held delusion) which is used to hire people, feed them and allow them to pay taxes.
.
And those taxes can be spent by governments to produce weapons that kill people.
.
And just as any other chaos butterfly effect, goes on and on!
.
All from something that can NOT have any physical Causality with us!
.
Yes this whole argument seems a little pedantic,
.
Ok, I hold my hand up and admit it!
.
It is very pedantic and douchy of me!
.
And you could argue that,
‘Photons of visible light from that long-dead star still travel and hit the eyes of us observers to make us feel so inspired!’
.
Like the thrown glass (Photon of visible light) that smashes into the floor (our eye).
.
The Observation cannot come before the existence of that long-dead star, throws out its light out into the dark.
.
Sure the amount of physical mass of those photons Vs the potential weight of the crap storm of physical effects that chain react here seems a little disproportionate!
.
But hey “Such is life”
.
But then it got me thinking about the nature of our ability to observe and the potential mystical non-science connections.
.
Physics:
.
If you have a single photon
(maybe it is from our long-dead star).
. And you direct or aim it in a plain,
To try to get it to travel through a small slit,
Out the other side,
Travel a short way,
Then through another slit,
To hit a target on the other side.
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According to physics,
If either slit is observed it will not make it through both slits, (it will miss its target)
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BUT
. If Neither sit is observed,
(Say the physicist doing the experiment needs the toilet, has a tea break or simply turns his back.)
Then the Photon will make it through and hit its target.
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However
If the Photon of visible light is observed after it has been shot in the correct direction, but BEFORE it hits the target.
.
(The physicist suddenly pops his head round to corner!)
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It will NOT have gone through both slits!
(Even though that is the only possible path it could have taken to successfully hit the target!)
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And this has been PROVEN!
(If I am wrong about this someone please tell me in the comments below)
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So a physical effect of a photon is changed by whether it was observed or not!
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The same sort of Photon as was shot out by our long-dead star!
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THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS TO GET WEIRD.
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I REMIND YOU AGAIN!
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DO NOT HAVE NIGHTMARES!
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THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS TO GET WEIRD.
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I REMIND YOU AGAIN!
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DO NOT HAVE NIGHTMARES!
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Observation is an act of consciousness and will.
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Observation is an act of consciousness and will.
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NOTE!
By Observe, I mean by any means,
Not just Eyesight!
Hearing, Touching, Tasting etc, etc, all count as a conscious choice to enact observation as well!
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By simply being aware of something and having the will to perceive it you can change what physically happens!
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NOTE!
By Observe, I mean by any means,
Not just Eyesight!
Hearing, Touching, Tasting etc, etc, all count as a conscious choice to enact observation as well!
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By simply being aware of something and having the will to perceive it you can change what physically happens!
.
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One of the Tenants of some wicker Majik is,
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See
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Know
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Will
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Dare
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Keep Silent.
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There are variations depending on the branch of Mysticism being studied, but most follow along with the same lines!
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Majik says that being conscious of something and making the small act of will to observe it can change reality.
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Physics says being conscious of something and making the small act of will to observe it can change a physical causal effect.
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SO IS MAGIC REAL?!
.
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Errrrr Anyone else feeling a little “Spooked” yet?
.
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So this opens up this question.
.
.
If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it,
Will it still make a sound?
.
.
One of the Tenants of some wicker Majik is,
.
See
.
Know
.
Will
.
Dare
.
Keep Silent.
.
There are variations depending on the branch of Mysticism being studied, but most follow along with the same lines!
.
.
Majik says that being conscious of something and making the small act of will to observe it can change reality.
.
.
Physics says being conscious of something and making the small act of will to observe it can change a physical causal effect.
.
.
SO IS MAGIC REAL?!
.
.
Errrrr Anyone else feeling a little “Spooked” yet?
.
.
So this opens up this question.
.
.
If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it,
Will it still make a sound?
.
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George Berkley, Treaties concerning the principles of human knowledge 1710
Though obviously that version was written in a 1710 style!
The current phrasing appears to have originated in the 1910 book Physics by Charles Riborg Mann and George Ransom Twiss.
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How much power does the act of consciously observing things have?
.
And what if it is not a one-way street?
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What is the thing we make the act of will to consciously observe, can affect us back?
.
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"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby becomes a monster.
And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."
.
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How much power does the act of consciously observing things have?
.
And what if it is not a one-way street?
.
What is the thing we make the act of will to consciously observe, can affect us back?
.
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"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby becomes a monster.
And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."
.
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Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil. 1886
. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (15 October 1844 – 25 August 1900) was a German philosopher, whose critiques of contemporary culture, religion, and philosophy centred on a basic question regarding the foundation of values and morality.
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Personally, I do not like him.
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I think he is a total arse hat teaching how to use intellectualism to self-licensed and justify doing evil stuff!
.
Probably because he was inappropriately romantically obsessed with his own sister!
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The scary thing is,
That consciously observing can affect us back?
.
Because while you noting (or not noting) the path of a visible light photon can change what 'it' does!
.
The same conscious act of will to observe that visible light photon will affect you back by making you inspired to both create, feel, love and hate!
And destroy!
.
.
.
Personally, I do not like him.
.
I think he is a total arse hat teaching how to use intellectualism to self-licensed and justify doing evil stuff!
.
Probably because he was inappropriately romantically obsessed with his own sister!
.
The scary thing is,
That consciously observing can affect us back?
.
Because while you noting (or not noting) the path of a visible light photon can change what 'it' does!
.
The same conscious act of will to observe that visible light photon will affect you back by making you inspired to both create, feel, love and hate!
And destroy!
.
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I Now Choose To Drink Far Less Beer!
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.
!
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UPDATE 24th NOV 2018
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Has Physics Accidentally Proven The Existence Of The Mystical?
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One person has said to me.
.
“ the answer is no. The supernatural cannot be investigated with science. Science is the study of the natural world.”
.
My reply was this.
.
OR? Maybe, what we call the supernatural is just parts of the natural world we have not explained yet.
.
We used to consider Lightning as a supernatural force until science explained it as a natural phenomenon.
.
Is today's supernatural just tomorrow's science?
.
Many things we take for granted would seem miraculous and "Magical" to a less technologically advanced society.
.
Of course, terms like “Science” or “Supernatural” are just labels we use.
.
Being pedantic and playing with semantics can only get us so far.
.
Because at the end of the day, whatever forces are out there do not care if we label them “Supernatural” or “Science,”
.
Lightning hitting someone thinking it is a sign of the gods will do just as much damage to them as it would to someone who happens to know that is only an electrical charge.
.
The lightning does not give two craps about the opinion of the person who has been hit.
.
Because we are just mere arrogant, self-delusional humans that happen to think that to stick a flag in something somehow makes it ours and gives us some sort of control over it.
.
!
!
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UPDATE 24th NOV 2018
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Has Physics Accidentally Proven The Existence Of The Mystical?
.
One person has said to me.
.
“ the answer is no. The supernatural cannot be investigated with science. Science is the study of the natural world.”
.
My reply was this.
.
OR? Maybe, what we call the supernatural is just parts of the natural world we have not explained yet.
.
We used to consider Lightning as a supernatural force until science explained it as a natural phenomenon.
.
Is today's supernatural just tomorrow's science?
.
Many things we take for granted would seem miraculous and "Magical" to a less technologically advanced society.
.
Of course, terms like “Science” or “Supernatural” are just labels we use.
.
Being pedantic and playing with semantics can only get us so far.
.
Because at the end of the day, whatever forces are out there do not care if we label them “Supernatural” or “Science,”
.
Lightning hitting someone thinking it is a sign of the gods will do just as much damage to them as it would to someone who happens to know that is only an electrical charge.
.
The lightning does not give two craps about the opinion of the person who has been hit.
.
Because we are just mere arrogant, self-delusional humans that happen to think that to stick a flag in something somehow makes it ours and gives us some sort of control over it.
.
!
.
!
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